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UM's officiella KTS Karta (Keirsey Temperament Sorter)


Ämnesstartare

Väldigt simulärt med Myers briggs, men jag gillar KTS mer (Dem två är nästan lika mycket använda över hela världen, men jag tycker ändå KTS är lite bättre Blink) Glad

Allt kommer vara på Engelska, men här är i alla fall en liten förklaring på skillnaderna

Keirsey describes observed long term behaviorial patterns, Myers often describes what people have in mind. The second essential difference is Myers used a linear four factor model to characterize "invariant" patterns of behavior of the individual throughout their lifetime, whereas Keirsey uses a systems field theory model to characterize these patterns.

Det ser ungefär ut såhär
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Många böcker och internetsidor mixar ihop dem och blandar ihop dem, ofta medvetet men även omedvetet.

Bokstäverna på en KTS skala hänger ihop ungefär såhär,

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Men vi kommer att fokusera på dem fyra temperamenten. Tumme upp

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SJ The Guardians
Det vill säga
ISTJ
ISFJ
ESTJ
ESFJ

SP The Artisans
Det vill säga
ISTP
ISFP
ESTP
ESFP

NF The Idealists
Det vill säga
INFJ
INFP
ENFJ
ENFP

NT The Rationals
Det vill säga
INTJ
INTP
ENTJ
ENTP

Denna tråd går ut på att para ihop dig själv och andra UMare, fiktionella karaktärer och kändisar med en av de fyra temperamenten du tror passar den personen/ dig själv bäst. Som jag sa, den den personen passar bäst med, om du är osäker mellan två eller flera ta den som är närmast. Eller som jag ifrån ett Sps perspektiv, lita på din magkänsla.


Då sätter vi igång,

Du måste inte läsa nånting utan det räcker med bilden nedan. Förutom att jag rekommenderar att du läser punkterna. Det vill säga "All....share the following core characteristics" texten. 

En kort kort beskrivnig på dem alla fyra Tumme upp
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Rationals (NTs) are the problem solving temperament, particularly if the problem has to do with the many complex systems that make up the world around us. Rationals might tackle problems in organic systems such as plants and animals, or in mechanical systems such as railroads and computers, or in social systems such as families and companies and governments. But whatever systems fire their curiosity, Rationals will analyze them to understand how they work, so they can figure out how to make them work better.

All Rationals share the following core characteristics:

  • Rationals tend to be pragmatic, skeptical, self-contained, and focused on problem-solving and systems analysis.
  • Rationals pride themselves on being ingenious, independent, and strong willed.
  • Rationals make reasonable mates, individualizing parents, and strategic leaders.
  • Rationals are even-tempered, they trust logic, yearn for achievement, seek knowledge, prize technology, and dream of understanding how the world works.

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In working with problems, Rationals try to find solutions that have application in the real world, but they are even more interested in the abstract concepts involved, the fundamental principles or natural laws that underlie the particular case. And they are completely pragmatic about their ways and means of achieving their ends. Rationals don't care about being politically correct.

They are interested in the most efficient solutions possible, and will listen to anyone who has something useful to teach them, while disregarding any authority or customary procedure that wastes time and resources.

Rationals have an insatiable hunger to accomplish their goals and will work tirelessly on any project they have set their mind to. They are rigorously logical and fiercely independent in their thinking -- are indeed skeptical of all ideas, even their own -- and they believe they can overcome any obstacle with their will power.

Often they are seen as cold and distant, but this is really the absorbed concentration they give to whatever problem they're working on. Whether designing a skyscraper or an experiment, developing a theory or a prototype technology, building an aircraft, a corporation, or a strategic alliance, Rationals value intelligence, in themselves and others, and they pride themselves on the ingenuity they bring to their problem solving.

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Guardians (SJs) are the cornerstone of society, for they are the temperament given to serving and preserving our most important social institutions. Guardians have natural talent in managing goods and services--from supervision to maintenance and supply -- and they use all their skills to keep things running smoothly in their families, communities, schools, churches, hospitals, and businesses.

All Guardians share the following core characteristics:

  • Guardians pride themselves on being dependable, helpful, and hard-working.
  • Guardians make loyal mates, responsible parents, and stabilizing leaders.
  • Guardians tend to be dutiful, cautious, humble, and focused on credentials and traditions.
  • Guardians are concerned citizens who trust authority, join groups, seek security, prize gratitude, and dream of meting out justice.

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Guardians can have a lot of fun with their friends, but they are quite serious about their duties and responsibilities. Guardians take pride in being dependable and trustworthy; if there's a job to be done, they can be counted on to put their shoulder to the wheel.

Guardians also believe in law and order, and sometimes worry that respect for authority, even a fundamental sense of right and wrong, is being lost. Perhaps this is why Guardians honor customs and traditions so strongly -- they are familiar patterns that help bring stability to our modern, fast-paced world. Practical and down-to-earth, Guardians believe in following the rules and cooperating with others.

They are not very comfortable winging it or blazing new trails; working steadily within the system is the Guardian way, for in the long run loyalty, discipline, and teamwork get the job done right. Guardians are meticulous about schedules and have a sharp eye for proper procedures.

They are cautious about change, even though they know that change can be healthy for an institution. Better to go slowly, they say, and look before you leap.

Guardians make up as much as 40 to 45 percent of the population, and a good thing, because they usually end up doing all the indispensable but thankless jobs the rest of the population takes for granted.

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Idealists (NFs) as a temperament, are passionately concerned with personal growth and development. Idealists strive to discover who they are and how they can become their best possible self -- always this quest for self-knowledge and self-improvement drives their imagination. And they want to help others make the journey. Idealists are naturally drawn to working with people, and whether in education or counseling, in social services or personnel work, in journalism or the ministry, they are gifted at helping others find their way in life, often inspiring them to grow as individuals and to fulfill their potentials.

All Idealists share the following core characteristics:

  • Idealists are enthusiastic, they trust their intuition, yearn for romance, seek their true self, prize meaningful relationships, and dream of attaining wisdom.
  • Idealists pride themselves on being loving, kindhearted, and authentic.
  • Idealists tend to be giving, trusting, spiritual, and they are focused on personal journeys and human potentials.
  • Idealists make intense mates, nurturing parents, and inspirational leaders.

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Idealists are sure that friendly cooperation is the best way for people to achieve their goals. Conflict and confrontation upset them because they seem to put up angry barriers between people. Idealists dream of creating harmonious, even caring personal relations, and they have a unique talent for helping people get along with each other and work together for the good of all.

Such interpersonal harmony might be a romantic ideal, but then Idealists are incurable romantics who prefer to focus on what might be, rather than what is. The real, practical world is only a starting place for Idealists; they believe that life is filled with possibilities waiting to be realized, rich with meanings calling out to be understood. This idea of a mystical or spiritual dimension to life, the "not visible" or the "not yet" that can only be known through intuition or by a leap of faith, is far more important to Idealists than the world of material things.

Highly ethical in their actions, Idealists hold themselves to a strict standard of personal integrity. They must be true to themselves and to others, and they can be quite hard on themselves when they are dishonest, or when they are false or insincere.

More often, however, Idealists are the very soul of kindness. Particularly in their personal relationships, Idealists are without question filled with love and good will. They believe in giving of themselves to help others; they cherish a few warm, sensitive friendships; they strive for a special rapport with their children; and in marriage they wish to find a "soulmate," someone with whom they can bond emotionally and spiritually, sharing their deepest feelings and their complex inner worlds.

Idealists are relatively rare, making up no more than 15 to 20 percent of the population. But their ability to inspire people with their enthusiasm and their idealism has given them influence far beyond their numbers.

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Artisans (SPs) are the temperament with a natural ability to excel in any of the arts, not only the fine arts such as painting and sculpting, or the performing arts such as music, theater, and dance, but also the athletic, military, political, mechanical, and industrial arts, as well as the "art of the deal" in business.

All Artisans share the following core characteristics:

  • Artisans tend to be fun-loving, optimistic, realistic, and focused on the here and now.
  • Artisans pride themselves on being unconventional, bold, and spontaneous.
  • Artisans make playful mates, creative parents, and troubleshooting leaders.
  • Artisans are excitable, trust their impulses, want to make a splash, seek stimulation, prize freedom, and dream of mastering action skills.

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Artisans are most at home in the real world of solid objects that can be made and manipulated, and of real-life events that can be experienced in the here and now. Artisans have exceptionally keen senses.

love working with their hands. They seem right at home with tools, instruments, and vehicles of all kinds, and their actions are usually aimed at getting them where they want to go, and as quickly as possible. Thus Artisans will strike off boldly down roads that others might consider risky or impossible, doing whatever it takes, rules or no rules, to accomplish their goals.

This devil-may-care attitude also gives the Artisans a winning way with people, and they are often irresistibly charming with family, friends, and co-workers. Artisans want to be where the action is; they seek out adventure and show a constant hunger for pleasure and stimulation. They believe that variety is the spice of life, and that doing things that aren't fun or exciting is a waste of time. Artisans are impulsive, adaptable, competitive, and believe the next throw of the dice will be the lucky one. They can also be generous to a fault, always ready to share with their friends from the bounty of life.

Above all, Artisans need to be free to do what they wish, when they wish. They resist being tied or bound or confined or obligated; they would rather not wait, or save, or store, or live for tomorrow. In the Artisan view, today must be enjoyed, for tomorrow never comes.

There are many Artisans, perhaps 30 to 35 percent of the population, which is good, because they create much of the beauty, grace, fun, and excitement the rest of us enjoy in life.

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Du kan gärna fortsätta "kartorna" listorna eller göra egna, eller bara skrivna enskilda Tumme upp Jag vill gärna veta vilken du anser dig själv vara, därför skapar jag även en poll Glad Jag börjar med UMare för att ge ett perspektiv inte för att jag gillar en del mer, jag hatar er Hjärta

Men var medvetna om att det bara är min uppfattning Glad jag går mycket på magkänsla då den är ihopkopplad med mitt undermedvetna. Mitt undermedvetna är ett geni medans mitt medvetna är jävligt korkat 😉 skämt och sido eller det var inge skämt men ändå. Hur som helst så blir även experter oöverens, vi kan ta ett exempel Adolf Hitler, Keirsey ser Adolf Hitler som en Idealist ENFJ medans jung ser han som en INX(T)J. Jag lägger han som INFJ Idealist.

Guardians
NW
Time
Isola
Moder Teresa
Eddard Stark
Jon Snow
Robb Stark
Rosa Parks
Michelle Obama
Dr.Phil
Tywin Lannister
Gerald Ford
President Jimmy Carter
President George HW Bush
George Washington
Celine Dion
Nick Offerman
Christopher Lee
Gordon Ramsey

Artisans
Schism
Sägmig
S3ON
Winston Churchill
Bill Clinton
Jamie Lannister
Robert Baratheon
Harry Potter
Jamie Lannister
Karl XII
Prince
Eminem
Bob Dylan
Jimmi Hendrix
Slash
Pablo Picasso
Kanye West
Bruce Lee


Idealists

Zymba
Mynona
Attitydinkontinent
Oprah Winfrey
Melisandre
Mcgonagall
Mahatma Gandhi
Nelson Mandela
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Adolf Hitler
Ruhollah Khomeini
Osama bin Laden
Kurt Cobain
Che Guevara
George Carlin
John Lennon
George R.R. Martin


Rationals

Exner
Morgonstjärna
Chibibbi
Napoleon
Karl Marx
Snape
Tyrion Lannister
Dumbledore
Petyr Bealish
Isaac Newton
Mark Zuckerberg
Stephen Hawking
Anders Breivik
Jay-Z
Albert Einstein
Jesse Eisenberg
Gustav Vasa
Axel Oxenstierna

Orkar inte mer, kan göra mer sen....


   
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Ämnesstartare

Tror jag snarare är av blandning NF och SP. 🙂


   
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Kudhos

INTJ 4 life


   
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mynona

Varberg: NF

Jag tenderar att få INFJ eller INTP 

Varberg: Idealists
Zymba
Mynona
Attitydinkontinent

Jag höll med om detta redan innan jag såg att du höll med mig. 

Du får den här smileyn: Rodnar

Det här är en bra idé till en forumlek


   
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Exner

S3ON:
Tror jag snarare är av blandning NF och SP. 🙂

Det beror på att olika kombinationer drar åt olika håll. Du är förmodligen ENTP i Meyers-Briggs.


   
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Exner

Kudhos:
INTJ 4 life

Detta är ett eget system. Du är SP.


   
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Exner

Varberg: Rationals
Exner

Där har vi visst svaret på min typ. = )


   
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Kudhos

Exner:

Detta är ett eget system. Du är SP.

Du kan vara en SP


   
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Ämnesstartare

Haha ja jag är nog en idealist verkar det som, känner igen mig mkt


   
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Ämnesstartare

Varberg: Idealists are relatively rare, making up no more than 15 to 20 percent of the population.

visste dock ej detta, trodde inte jag var så unik. spännande.


   
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mynona

Exner:

Det beror på att olika kombinationer drar åt olika håll. Du är förmodligen ENTP i Meyers-Briggs.

Håller du med om TS' bedömning av mig? 


   
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Ämnesstartare

Myers Briggs och KTS ska bli detsamma i dem 16 personligheterna i slutändan 

Men även experter blir oeniga och har själva svårt att placera ut sig själva, det tar flera år. Carl Gustav Jung var en ISTP i sina tidigare år och en INTP senare enligt han själv.  Enligt Isabel Myers förändrades det aldrig och han var en INTP och enligt Keirsey var Jung en INFJ.

Zymba: visste dock ej detta, trodde inte jag var så unik. spännande.

Bryr man sig för mycket om sin omkrets och eller är för osjälvisk slutar man oftast upp att må dåligt/ slutar upp ensam vilket gör att vi har väldigt mycket NFs på UM. Det verkar också som att du umgås mest med andra NFs, därför kanske det var lite otänkbart för dig det är min teori Glad


   
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Ämnesstartare

Vladimir Lenin ska ha vart en NT INTJ 


   
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Ämnesstartare

mynona: Håller du med om TS' bedömning av mig?

Det var ingen aktiv bedömning Glad

Varberg: jag går mycket på magkänsla då den är ihopkopplad med mitt undermedvetna. Mitt undermedvetna är ett geni medans mitt medvetna är jävligt korkat 😉


   
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mynona

Varberg: Det var ingen aktiv bedömning

Gör ingenting om du bara tog ett random namn för att fylla ut listan. Det blev ändå den jag skulle valt själv, och frågan till exner kvarstår - rentav ännu mer om jag alltså inte fått någon aktiv bedömningGlad


   
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